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Topic: Grand Vitara to become CKD
Posted: 06 Nov 2009 at 3:27pm

Maruti Suzuki is considering to locally assemble the Grand Vitara by next year, as it looks to bring a diesel version of the SUV to bump the sales. The company which currently imports the Grand Vitara from Japan, has already started the initial process for starting assembly of the SUV, including talks with component makers for supply of parts. Initially the diesel Vitara would be a completely-built-unit (CBU). CBUs attract over 100% import duty, making it highly expensive and uncompetitive.

In the recent months, sales of Grand Vitara is falling drastically. During April-September period, sales of the SUV fell nearly 70% to just 59 units from 194 units in the year-ago period. In July, a more powerful version of the Grand Vitara was introduced to revive the demand but failed to do so. In September, sales declined by 53% to only 9 units as against 19 units in the same month last year.

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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 at 4:24pm

Locally assebled = FALL IN QUALITY

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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 at 4:54pm

IF ti become CKD also i cant compet with Fortuner & captiva...

Honda CRV struggling to sale in good numbers. They have price it below 13 lacs if they want to increase the numbers.

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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 at 5:17pm

Originally posted by prashurv

IF ti become CKD also i cant compet with Fortuner & captiva...

Honda CRV struggling to sale in good numbers. They have price it below 13 lacs if they want to increase the numbers.

When the Vitara becomes CKD there will be a heavy reduction in the costs, because of the custom duty. So prices are bound to fall drastically, I expect it to be around the Safari-Scorpio mark, and there I think it can sell pretty good.

Th Vitara has a 1.9 Multijet diesel engine abroad. Can we see the same engine do the duty in the SX4?

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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 at 5:30pm

the only GV i would have bought would have been the first generation with V6 , maruti somehow has to fit it self into 10+ lakhs segment

@ rahul , don't u think it being asking too much from maruti ? 1.9 multijet in SX4 ? i would be glad if they get a 1.6

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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 at 5:36pm

If it comes near 12lac, it would be a hot-seller but again even Chevy is considering CKD option, so Captiva is any day a better choice than GV.
And i think Fiat still has not permitted to use 1.6-1.9 MJD's here otherwise Sx4 would have launched way before, so i doubt this news. I dont expect it before mid 2010 or may be later.
But still at 12lac(diesel), it will be the best option.

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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 at 6:14pm

Would be interesting to see which diesel powertrain will power the GV. They could also plonk that in the SX4 !! Anyways i would prefer a locally assembled Captiva to a locally assembled GV.

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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 at 6:17pm

Can't comment about quality till we see it. But the good news is that the prices will come down. It is a good car and a diesel heart is just what it needs...not today but the day it was launched.

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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 at 6:40pm

I dont think Quality will be great. Its not that worth even when its imported so can i expect good quality from locally assembled GV by Maruti Suzuki, i think NO...Because till now they have not shown the quality improvement nationally or Globally, so cant expect so soon till they are top sellers here. I have seen the Mahindra's, Tata's and Hyundai's quality improvement to great extent, but not MS. They are almost the same with every product. I hope we see it but thing is i am now not so positive about my hope.

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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 at 9:32pm

Originally posted by bluesapphire

I dont think Quality will be great. Its not that worth even when its imported so can i expect good quality from locally assembled GV by Maruti Suzuki, i think NO...Because till now they have not shown the quality improvement nationally or Globally, so cant expect so soon till they are top sellers here. I have seen the Mahindra's, Tata's and Hyundai's quality improvement to great extent, but not MS. They are almost the same with every product. I hope we see it but thing is i am now not so positive about my hope.

do you mean to say, Quality of GV is worser than Safari/Scorpio. I don't think so

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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 at 9:35pm

Quality isn't as good as it should be for its current price. But something around 12 lakhs, I don't think we should complain. Hell, if they launch a diesel GV, I'm definately interested.

EDIT: We don't know what the prices will be after this, so please disregard that 12 lakh figure, it was only for comparison's sake.

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Edited by FuelRunGod - 06 Nov 2009 at 9:37pm

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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 at 9:45pm

@FRG
As you are a Safari owner this question can be properly answered by you only.
What would you rather have? The Safari or Scorpio or the GV?

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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 at 10:13pm

A GV anyday...the plastics and build quality is so much better than either the Scorp or the Safari. But provided a diesel is under the hood.

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Posted: 06 Nov 2009 at 10:15pm

At a similar price point, it should be GV, as its a softroader, which means it should drive like a car and act as an SUV, apart from this, its a Maruti.

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creativebala Advanced License Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Location: India City : Chennai Online Status: Offline Posts: 1054	Topic: Grand Vitara to become CKD Posted: 06 Nov 2009 at 3:27pm
	Maruti Suzuki is considering to locally assemble the Grand Vitara by next year, as it looks to bring a diesel version of the SUV to bump the sales. The company which currently imports the Grand Vitara from Japan, has already started the initial process for starting assembly of the SUV, including talks with component makers for supply of parts. Initially the diesel Vitara would be a completely-built-unit (CBU). CBUs attract over 100% import duty, making it highly expensive and uncompetitive. In the recent months, sales of Grand Vitara is falling drastically. During April-September period, sales of the SUV fell nearly 70% to just 59 units from 194 units in the year-ago period. In July, a more powerful version of the Grand Vitara was introduced to revive the demand but failed to do so. In September, sales declined by 53% to only 9 units as against 19 units in the same month last year. - motorbeam
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asethi919 Intermediate License Joined: 22 Jun 2009 Location: India City : Delhi Online Status: Offline Posts: 391	Posted: 06 Nov 2009 at 4:24pm
	Locally assebled = FALL IN QUALITY
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prashurv Intermediate License Joined: 09 May 2009 Location: India City : Bangalore Online Status: Offline Posts: 50	Posted: 06 Nov 2009 at 4:54pm
	IF ti become CKD also i cant compet with Fortuner & captiva... Honda CRV struggling to sale in good numbers. They have price it below 13 lacs if they want to increase the numbers.
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rahul1810 Special License Joined: 31 Dec 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 741	Posted: 06 Nov 2009 at 5:17pm
	*Originally posted by prashurv* IF ti become CKD also i cant compet with Fortuner & captiva... Honda CRV struggling to sale in good numbers. They have price it below 13 lacs if they want to increase the numbers. When the Vitara becomes CKD there will be a heavy reduction in the costs, because of the custom duty. So prices are bound to fall drastically, I expect it to be around the Safari-Scorpio mark, and there I think it can sell pretty good. Th Vitara has a 1.9 Multijet diesel engine abroad. Can we see the same engine do the duty in the SX4?
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sarabjeet Intermediate License Joined: 02 Sep 2008 Location: India City : BOMB-BAY Online Status: Offline Posts: 357	Posted: 06 Nov 2009 at 5:30pm
	the only GV i would have bought would have been the first generation with V6 , maruti somehow has to fit it self into 10+ lakhs segment @ rahul , don't u think it being asking too much from maruti ? 1.9 multijet in SX4 ? i would be glad if they get a 1.6
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bluesapphire Advanced License Joined: 31 Aug 2007 Location: India City : SURAT Online Status: Offline Posts: 5192	Posted: 06 Nov 2009 at 5:36pm
	If it comes near 12lac, it would be a hot-seller but again even Chevy is considering CKD option, so Captiva is any day a better choice than GV. And i think Fiat still has not permitted to use 1.6-1.9 MJD's here otherwise Sx4 would have launched way before, so i doubt this news. I dont expect it before mid 2010 or may be later. But still at 12lac(diesel), it will be the best option.
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karanraheja Intermediate License Joined: 11 May 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 529	Posted: 06 Nov 2009 at 6:14pm
	Would be interesting to see which diesel powertrain will power the GV. They could also plonk that in the SX4 !! Anyways i would prefer a locally assembled Captiva to a locally assembled GV.
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FuelRunGod Super License Admin Joined: 14 Aug 2007 City : Bombay/Ujjain Online Status: Offline Posts: 2939	Posted: 06 Nov 2009 at 6:17pm
	Can't comment about quality till we see it. But the good news is that the prices will come down. It is a good car and a diesel heart is just what it needs...not today but the day it was launched. FRG
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bluesapphire Advanced License Joined: 31 Aug 2007 Location: India City : SURAT Online Status: Offline Posts: 5192	Posted: 06 Nov 2009 at 6:40pm
	I dont think Quality will be great. Its not that worth even when its imported so can i expect good quality from locally assembled GV by Maruti Suzuki, i think NO...Because till now they have not shown the quality improvement nationally or Globally, so cant expect so soon till they are top sellers here. I have seen the Mahindra's, Tata's and Hyundai's quality improvement to great extent, but not MS. They are almost the same with every product. I hope we see it but thing is i am now not so positive about my hope.
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creativebala Advanced License Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Location: India City : Chennai Online Status: Offline Posts: 1054	Posted: 06 Nov 2009 at 9:32pm
	*Originally posted by bluesapphire* I dont think Quality will be great. Its not that worth even when its imported so can i expect good quality from locally assembled GV by Maruti Suzuki, i think NO...Because till now they have not shown the quality improvement nationally or Globally, so cant expect so soon till they are top sellers here. I have seen the Mahindra's, Tata's and Hyundai's quality improvement to great extent, but not MS. They are almost the same with every product. I hope we see it but thing is i am now not so positive about my hope. do you mean to say, Quality of GV is worser than Safari/Scorpio. I don't think so
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FuelRunGod Super License Admin Joined: 14 Aug 2007 City : Bombay/Ujjain Online Status: Offline Posts: 2939	Posted: 06 Nov 2009 at 9:35pm
	Quality isn't as good as it should be for its current price. But something around 12 lakhs, I don't think we should complain. Hell, if they launch a diesel GV, I'm definately interested. EDIT: We don't know what the prices will be after this, so please disregard that 12 lakh figure, it was only for comparison's sake. FRG Edited by FuelRunGod - 06 Nov 2009 at 9:37pm
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rahul1810 Special License Joined: 31 Dec 2008 Online Status: Offline Posts: 741	Posted: 06 Nov 2009 at 9:45pm
	@FRG As you are a Safari owner this question can be properly answered by you only. What would you rather have? The Safari or Scorpio or the GV?
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FuelRunGod Super License Admin Joined: 14 Aug 2007 City : Bombay/Ujjain Online Status: Offline Posts: 2939	Posted: 06 Nov 2009 at 10:13pm
	A GV anyday...the plastics and build quality is so much better than either the Scorp or the Safari. But provided a diesel is under the hood. FRG
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creativebala Advanced License Joined: 24 Aug 2009 Location: India City : Chennai Online Status: Offline Posts: 1054	Posted: 06 Nov 2009 at 10:15pm
	At a similar price point, it should be GV, as its a softroader, which means it should drive like a car and act as an SUV, apart from this, its a Maruti.
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